Field Review of Nikon D700 in Subal ND700 
Last Update: 18 November 2008 12:12 AM
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Author: Alex Mustard ( Alex_Mustard )
WIDE ANGLE
The Red Sea is an excellent wide angle destination, with vibrant reefs, caves, pinnacles, walls, wrecks, schools and if you are lucky encounters with pelagics. And all this in clear waters, with not a cloud in the sky to quench the sunshine.
Most subjects here, lend themselves to fisheye photography and having dismissed the Nikon 16mm as less desirably to the more modern Sigma 15mm in my D3 review, I decided to put my views to the test by taking the Nikkor to the Red Sea. In reality, under most shooting situations, there is little to chose between them. Both are sharp and work very well behind Subal’s FE2 dome. I feel that the Nikon resists internal dome reflections better, while the Sigma is marginally sharper a focuses noticeably closer. On one occasion when I was shooting an attractive red anemone with the 16mm + teleconverter, I was frustrated to run against the minimum focus. I was pleased with those shots, nonetheless, but felt there was a possibility for something different if I had been able to get closer still. I was already very close.
As has been widely discussed on the Wetpixel forums perhaps the biggest loss of FX over DX is the inability to use the Tokina 10-17mm fisheye zoom, or to have a real alternative to this lens. This lens offers such a perfect range for underwater wide angle photography, that it is the most compelling reason that many have found to stick to DX. The Tokina 10-17mm on DX covers 180˚ to 100˚ corner to corner. Compare this to the 14-24mm and 17-35mm on FX, which give 114˚ and 104˚ at their widest, respectively, and you see that there is relatively little overlap in their angles of view. Furthermore, the FX options are both rectilinear lenses, which are harder to optimise behind domes.
On the D700 the Nikon 16mm or Sigma 15mm both match the Tokina’s coverage at the 10mm end on DX, and exceed its sharpness and lessen its tendencies chromatic aberration. 180 degree coverage is ideal for most reef wide angle in the Red Sea and for scenic work I did not miss the Tokina. But a prime fisheye can be a bit too wide for marine life. The Tokina can be zoomed in, the FX fisheyes cannot. I did use the Nikon 16mm mounted on a 1.5x teleconverter simply to reduce its coverage to about 100 degrees for certain subjects. This decision had to be made before a dive, but it gave me a wide angle option with excellent corner sharpness and only mild barrel distortion.
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Comment(s):Thanks guys (need hairier arms, James). I was asked question about the 105mm VR - and how it fits in the older style Subal ports. Felt my answer was worth repeating here.
Didn’t take the 105mm VR to the Red Sea, but with the correct port I am sure it is fine on the D700, as it was on the D3. It is best with Subal’s dedicated 105mm VR port (this is what I used it with on the D3), but Martin Edge used his with the old 105mm port on his D300. On my D2X, I have always used a home made port extension ring.
The downside of the official Subal 105mm VR port (as I stated in my D3 review) is that there is no room in there for a dioptre.
Posted by Dr. Alex Mustard on 11/18 at 01:27 AMThanks a lot for this review. For non professional users as i am, these bodies & housing are a dream. Thanks to let us dream !
Posted by divocean on 11/18 at 03:49 AMWow, great review Alex. I’m a Canon guy and will probably never have the opportunity to shoot the Nikon but I really enjoyed your effort. The images you are able to achieve are simply breath taking. Thanks!
StevePosted by Steve Williams on 11/18 at 10:46 AMHi Alex,
First off. Great review and coverage of this particular housing and options. You state “the underwater world provides very few opportunities to utilise this feature above ISO 400”, but don’t forget the guys diving in temperate (cold, green and dark) waters! I myself am pining for any U/W setup that can handle higher ISO’s in the water I mostly dive in. My D80 -not in the same league- fails miserably at ISO400 and higher here in the Netherlands.
Posted by Arne on 11/19 at 06:24 AMAlex,
Great review!
As I mentioned in my email; I ordered my housing. Good news is that Ryan should be shipping it tomorrow, unfortunately not in time for Friday’s first Manatee outing with Michelle and Carol. A minor detail to add is that the housing has an extra bulkhead. I have Ryan creating a USB port for me so that I will be able to use Nikon Camera Control and have a laptop on a table for my pool stuff for immediate review without having to take the card out etc. How cool is that!
JeffPosted by loftus on 11/19 at 05:16 PMAlex,
Great review!
Ryan should be shipping my housing tomorrow. Yesssssssss!
Unfortunately not likely to be in time for my first manatee outing on Friday with Carol and Michelle.
A minor detail to add, is that the housing has an extra bulkhead. I’m having Ryan fir mine for a USB connection. The plan is to use Nikon Capture Pro on a laptop for my pool stuff. Immediate download and review without having to open the housing to download the card. How cool is that!
JeffPosted by loftus on 11/19 at 05:19 PMI agree about temperate waters, Arne. Check out my D3 review from Canada.
Good stuff, Jeff. Will you be able to control your camera through the USB? That way you could just sit in a chair and leave the camera on a tripod in the pool!Posted by Dr. Alex Mustard on 11/20 at 01:53 AMI’ve downloaded a trial of Nikon Camera Control Pro, and it looks like you can control the camera as well as take pics with the camera and see the images immediately on the computer screen. Yeah, I could set up the lounge chair and maybe get the model to serve me a beer before diving in. :)
Posted by loftus on 11/20 at 04:21 AMHello colleagues,
thanks for the great review. I have a Subal D3 housing and I´m currently considering fitting an USB port for polecam work, so my question is:
Who´s Ryan, is he from backscatter.com?
Posted by Andrej Belic on 11/20 at 08:26 AMRyan is at Reef Photo; they advertise on the sidebar on the front page
Posted by loftus on 11/20 at 08:57 AMDr. Mustard,
Thank you for the extremely informative review, and the photos are stunning as well. In particular, it is reassuring to hear your thoughts about the D700 vs. D300 as I already have Subal’s D300 housing and am totally in love with the 10-17. When Nikon’s high resolution SLR is shipping I will revisit the idea of upgrading to FX, and this review along with your D3 review provide an excellent framework for lens selection and technique when making the jump. Thank you again.
SterlingPosted by sterlingz on 11/20 at 12:01 PMAlex,
Thanks for the nice review. I guess you would not recommend the D700 to people (like me) who lik eto keep using their Tokina DX (10-17) lense? D300 would then probably be a better option? Albert KokPosted by albert kok on 11/28 at 07:27 AMHi Alex,
Interesting review. I’m tempted by the low light performance and getting a wider angle back with the 60mm macro, but it’s interesting to see that the smaller sensor of the D300 has advantages too. I just started using a Tokina 35mm macro, which has the same angle on a DX sensor as the 60mm on a FX, but it focuses too close to the front of the port to use it’s full magnification.
I wondered which port that is on the front of the housing shown here?
Bernard
Posted by BernardPicton on 12/22 at 01:08 PMHi Bernard,
The D700 is a very interesting camera - but for what I suspect you need it for the D300 really has every base covered.
This port on the camera here is one of the variety of 4” domes that Subal made. The most well know was the one for the 20mm, but they made a variety on longer ports too. I am not sure that they make them anymore. Peter Rowlands tends to use them for studio shots because they look nice and don’t obscure too many features of the housing (unlike a larger dome port).
Alex
Posted by Dr. Alex Mustard on 12/24 at 05:49 AMHi Alex,
Thank you for the great review.I agree with Arne. Don’t forget the cold water people around the world. Here in the northwest we get some great kelp forests in the summer that are not as tall as the California kelp. This allows the sun to come streaming in. Too bad you couldn’t have taken it down to San Diego and run through the kelp in the summer and see if you still don’t see a need for High ISO. Come on up to Seattle or Nanaimo and see if you can’t find use for the High ISO.
I do have a question. I am using a D70s with the 6 Mega pixel DX sensor and older focusing firmware. Would it be worth it to move up to FX sensor, newer firmware and double the pixels that the D700 would provide or stay with DX, double my pixels and better firmware the D300 provides? I am already compensating for not seeing the full frame in my view finder, so that is not a problem.Posted by Chogless on 10/10 at 09:47 AM
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